and charlie gasperino, it's time to start? >> yes, i think that, again, i'm going it defend ben bernan bernanke. >> a shock. >> every time you say something-- >> i criticize him a lot. >> neil: i've never heard it. >> printing money and is necessary to prevent us from-- >> so you're worried and he's the only guy in the line of defense? >> you think there's somebody else? >> and mr. payne? is charlie going to bank on-- >> i'm sorry, i'm on to mr. payne. >> the ceo's-- the problem and they point specifically to the administration and listen, if you think this first, this war on success, this war on business is bad right now, a second term in my mind will be devastating because i sincerely believe the administration is going to have after profits generated overseas before they're brought back and reach over and take those profits and put them into infrastructure bank and i think there notion of taxing and the notion that the publicly traded companies that their property belongs to the public domain, of course the ceo's, every one